team tehn april 28th

[CPT. Karafa]

smart1 said:

quickshadow said:

exactly if you are worried about getting hit with a gun shooting that hot just leave your BDUs on and have a full paintball mask. threw all that stuff 400 fps most likely wont break skin at 20 feet.

WRONG!
It may bleed.
A few weeks back at one of the Dirty Dozen games, Dirty Dan got me from across the field, with a gas sniper, easiyl shooting in the 400 fps range. He was in the back tower and I was by the pond, and it bled, but that was on bare skin. Just for comparison, i was at least 150-170 feet out form him.
Through clothing, it will definatetly leave a huge welt if it doesnt bleed.
A hit on a paintball mask, well, thats common sense..platic bb hitting a plastic mask, you won't feel it, but you will hear it hit the mask.

You gotta remember that chances are, he was using a heavier BB to go along with his sniper. In this case, momentum/inertia will have a different value than as if it were a lighter gram round. It might not be a lot, but there will defiantly be a change in the way the BB in pacts. The round will want to transfer more energy due to the mass and volume, causing it to create an "open wound". This is also why paintball hurts a helluva lot more than airsoft, even tho they shoot relatively close to the same speed. And also, chances are if you get hit with something on bare skin, moving a couple hundred miles an hour... its going to bleed.

[Connors]

karafa said:

smart1 said:

WRONG!
It may bleed.
A few weeks back at one of the Dirty Dozen games, Dirty Dan got me from across the field, with a gas sniper, easiyl shooting in the 400 fps range. He was in the back tower and I was by the pond, and it bled, but that was on bare skin. Just for comparison, i was at least 150-170 feet out form him.
Through clothing, it will definatetly leave a huge welt if it doesnt bleed.
A hit on a paintball mask, well, thats common sense..platic bb hitting a plastic mask, you won't feel it, but you will hear it hit the mask.

You gotta remember that chances are, he was using a heavier BB to go along with his sniper. In this case, momentum/inertia will have a different value than as if it were a lighter gram round. It might not be a lot, but there will defiantly be a change in the way the BB in pacts. The round will want to transfer more energy due to the mass and volume, causing it to create an "open wound". This is also why paintball hurts a helluva lot more than airsoft, even tho they shoot relatively close to the same speed. And also, chances are if you get hit with something on bare skin, moving a couple hundred miles an hour... its going to bleed.

Karafa makes a good point. BB weight is a huge factor in pain and speed. 350 with a .20 and 400+ with a .25/.30 (I think thats what Dirty Dan uses) ther is a HUGE power differnece. Inertia and momentum are big factors. 350fps blast with .20's probably wont hurt much at all. but 400+ with a .30, that hurts a lot, even form very far out.

[a2nm00gle]

Am I allowed to use hi-caps or is it only low caps? If it has already been asked, I'm sorry.

[quickshadow]

there is no ammo cap for the weekly games when we have bigger events the rules will be better described then.

[rynedogg]

smart1 said:

I would rather take the sniper shot. One shot-'lil pain for a few mins, or pepperd from 10 feet away, and your body is gonna hurt for a while. I think I'll take a sniper, because it's just one shot, and it's only one spot, not 10-20 shots all at once all over. Focused pain is sometimes more tolerable than pain spread throughout.

And the guy that left the dirty dozen game this past week, het got nailed by someone pulling full auto right at the goggle line just barley below his eye, and it bled down his face. if you were in that situation, wouldn't you be a lil pissed? However, I do think he overreactec lil bit.
So, before any of you go and call someone out on their possible immaturity, make sure you know the whole story.
This isn't a shot at you Chaz, im just saying for any people who may bring it up as him being a sissy in the future.
Airsoft is a game where you are shooting at others, and they are shooting back. You're gonna get hit eventually, and everyone take a few face shots at some point in their life.
(unless your Knief, then you just get nailed in the balls..a lot.)

that was the smartest thing ive ever heard you say gunman. lol

but for the record, the guy who left was having a bad day, he also happened to be a really good friend of mine and it was beter that he left, other then went out on the field pissed off.

For the record, Dirty's sniper is shooting around 400 on propane with .36's. its powerful. so with that said we've all been shot, getting shot 10-20 times is goin to hurt alot more then gettin shot once with a sniper.

All in all, getting shot is a part of the game and i am just saying it may be best to keep the rules the way they are and say snipers are a different story. i mean shit if it is neccasary im sure i could get hold of a real nice chrono and show some guns dont shoot as hard as you think.

[quickshadow]

shooting 400 with .36 is way different then getting shot with a gun shooting .2g at 400fps...

that sniper had to be hitting around 650 fps with .2 i would only hope my sniper could reach that.
with that being said im pretty sure you dont have to worry about people getting shot by that kind of weapons. most people have stock aegs and those rules wont even apply to there guns. the reason i set the first set of FPS to 400 is because alot of the gun manufactures are making there guns shoot closer to that mark stock. Not everyone knows how to down grade there weapons or wants to spend the money doing it.

[S-System]

not true on alot of gun makers making there guns shoot around 400 fps
Classic Army 320 ( unless its the SR25 440 fps )
Tokyo Marui 285
G&G 320
G&P 350-360
Star depends on what guns yes around 400
ICS 320
Echo 1 285 -360 depending on which gun
So out of all the companies that a listed only 1 makes most of there guns stock at 400 fps
CA makes one gun at 449 fps

A sniper gun that shoots 600 ussually is best bieng bolt action or semi-auto
I gaurantee most people can handle getting shot once with a gun shooting 500+ but its a different story getting hit by 10 at once because some idiot wants his gun shooting 600 + and have full auto

[Connors]

ssystem said:

A sniper gun that shoots 600 ussually is best bieng bolt action or semi-auto
I gaurantee most people can handle getting shot once with a gun shooting 500+ but its a different story getting hit by 10 at once because some idiot wants his gun shooting 600 + and have full auto

Well said. Couldn't be any closer to the truth.

[quickshadow]

we have made the mock bomb it will be tested out this Saturday. the bomb was made for the Op. Black Cloud. and will only be used at that Op after the testing is done. It should make for an interesting set of games this Saturday along with all the new types of scenarios.

[redalert]

well first of all why would some1 pepper some1 from like 10 feet on full auto when only 1 shot is required to get them out? the way i see it that person that peppered the other person is asking to start something. if i was the guy that got peppered u better watch out cuz my trigger might just get stuck and my shoots 360 with .2's at about 900-950 rpm and i got 300 rounds in 1 mag (im gonna get a 2500 rd drum mag sometime soon)

[chaz]

quick, could you get a picture of the mock bomb, or a description for that matter?

[skypilot181]

advancedmethod said:

well first of all why would some1 pepper some1 from like 10 feet on full auto when only 1 shot is required to get them out?

First, this is a message board, not a IM chat room. Please spell out your words.

advancedmethod said:

the way i see it that person that peppered the other person is asking to start something.

It appears you haven't play too much CQB. A quick squeeze on the trigger will fire 5 or 6 rounds.

advancedmethod said:

if i was the guy that got peppered u better watch out cuz my trigger might just get stuck and my shoots 360 with .2's at about 900-950 rpm and i got 300 rounds in 1 mag (im gonna get a 2500 rd drum mag sometime soon)

Wrong sportsmanship here! Best thing to do is walk away, then return when you've cooled down and then approach the person. I agree there is no need to blast someone 30 times at 10 feet away. Sometimes accidents happen by mistake. Best to address the problem when you're not hot headed.

[quickshadow]

chaz... the bomb is being painted right now...(its still wet) but basicly we took a cd player with speakers and re wired the play switch to a wire connection type deal. so to plant the bomb you have to open up this box pull out the wires 4 on one side 9 on the other all with open leads and find the right match then a sound will play "bomb armed, bomb planted" then it will start beeping. over the course of 5 mins the beeping will start to get faster and faster then the bomb will blow up. to defuse the bomb you have to get to it and open up the box with all the wires as well and find the right match and when you do there will be a static sound for a second and the beeping will stop. meaning you defused the bomb.


When making it i wanted to make it as close to the real thing as possible with out the ability to cheat. Once the bomb is planted there is no other way to stop it other then the way posted above.
all the other buttons FF RR Stop are disabled i was gunna lock up the battery box to but i hope that wont be a problem.

the sounds played are halo sounds. so it sounds like a game out of halo. the bomb timer is exactly 4 minutes and 50 seconds. so you have less the 5 mins to get it defused. avg planting time i would say would be any where from 15seconds to a minute. the defusal time is a little bit less then planting time. so in other words when you hear Bomb planted. you better start running.

[redalert]

skypilot181 said:

advancedmethod said:

well first of all why would some1 pepper some1 from like 10 feet on full auto when only 1 shot is required to get them out?

First, this is a message board, not a IM chat room. Please spell out your words.

It appears you haven't play too much CQB. A quick squeeze on the trigger will fire 5 or 6 rounds.

advancedmethod said:

if i was the guy that got peppered u better watch out cuz my trigger might just get stuck and my shoots 360 with .2's at about 900-950 rpm and i got 300 rounds in 1 mag (im gonna get a 2500 rd drum mag sometime soon)

Wrong sportsmanship here! Best thing to do is walk away, then return when you've cooled down and then approach the person. I agree there is no need to blast someone 30 times at 10 feet away. Sometimes accidents happen by mistake. Best to address the problem when you're not hot headed.

first of all... if u read the above posts u would know it wasnt 5-6 shots. it was 15-20... and thats a damn long trigger pull unless u have a systema turbo gearbox that shoots 30 rds a second. and why are you complaining about me not spelling out my words.... isnt that a little off topic. plus this is just a forum... its not like im writing a paper... also, how would you accidently spray someone on full suto if your the one stalking them... when im playing im on semi almost all the time because i can fire fast enough if i have to on semi saves me ammo and it makes it seem like i can control myself.

[pr1m3]

advancedmethod said:

first of all... if u read the above posts u would know it wasnt 5-6 shots. it was 15-20... and thats a damn long trigger pull unless u have a systema turbo gearbox that shoots 30 rds a second. and why are you complaining about me not spelling out my words.... isnt that a little off topic. plus this is just a forum... its not like im writing a paper... also, how would you accidently spray someone on full suto if your the one stalking them... when im playing im on semi almost all the time because i can fire fast enough if i have to on semi saves me ammo and it makes it seem like i can control myself.

(Sorry for off-topic)
The reason why we ask you to type in real written English is because people read real written English. When you have no caps, no comas, and enough run on sentences to make you tired, most people don't take you too seriously and would rather not try to decipher your post.

smart1 said:

I would rather take the sniper shot. One shot-'lil pain for a few mins, or pepperd from 10 feet away, and your body is gonna hurt for a while. I think I'll take a sniper, because it's just one shot, and it's only one spot, not 10-20 shots all at once all over. Focused pain is sometimes more tolerable than pain spread throughout.

Actually it says 10-20 shots, which can be (15 shots) 3/4s of a second if you shoot at 20rps.
(End off-topic)