CQB game- Sun. Nov. 25th

[vegas]

Sunday, Nov. 25th
10:30am- 8:00pm
I've arranged to use the basement of a building in Downtown Detroit for another airsoft game.
Here are some photos:
s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc259/Vegas_7/?start=0

1703 Cass St.
Detroit, Mi. 48226
maps.citysearch.com/map/view/11491428

Cross Street: Bagley Street

The entrance is a black door with the word "Labyrinth" above it, on the east side of the building.
I recommend parking in the secured hotel lot on the west side of the building. That is the lot next to the hotel on Bagley st.

$10 Pre-sale tickets(PM me)
$15 at the door
350.9 fps or less
Camo Vs. All Black
30 player max
PLEASE ARRIVE IN STREET CLOTHES
We will dress and prep in the staging room.
BRING AEG's IN CASES, BOXES or BAGS so as not to brandish them.

Everyone must sign a waiver to play. Waivers will be available on sight.
Bring state issued ID
If you are under 18 you must have your waiver signed by your parent or guardian. If your parental unit will not be present to sign for you, I can e-mail you a copy in advance.

I don't have a scenario written.
However, I have put some thought into the type of game-play that would be best suited to the area. I think a two team, attack and defend situation would be best. A hostage situation may work as well. I'd like to switch who is attacking, and who is defending each game.

Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

~Vegas

PM me to RSVP and arrange pre-sale tickets through paypal.

Camo: 14
Clampitt
ChrisP
mp81+5
hunter2493
Tanner5842
Firsttofall+3

Black: 14
Vegas
Jeremy
Conscript+2
Rynedogg
Brad
LaxRider+3
Slipknot+2


Only 2 spots left!!

[mp81]

Hmm, I think chris and I should be there, not sure yet, who the hell knows what is going on with schedules.

Is our rocket launcher legal?...

[chrisp]

Hey this is was a great time last time we played, people actually come this time. It's in Detroit, but its a part of the city where there are at times, more white people than black and you won't get shot. COME AND PLAY ITS AWESOME. I'll be there

[vegas]

mp81 said:

Is our rocket launcher legal?...

Could you describe this 'rocket launcher' for me?

[mp81]

Well, the rocket launcher was originally "designed" to be purely airsoft - it was to fire model rockets with the nose cones filled with BBs. Well, after we lost the prototype rocket on top of a school after the maiden voyage, we hacked the hell out of another and used that for the rocket. Now - the launcher, it is a piece of PVC, roughly 3" in diameter - and it used to be about 8-10 feet long. It is about 3 feet long now - if that, maybe 2' or 2.5', and it is designed to fire tennisballs (which have been tested, and performed poorly).

So, since the model rocket is a pain to muzzle load and get to go really accurate (though it was sorta accurate), we want to use something else - we're just not sure what exactly...

[vegas]

I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to say no about that 'rocket launcher' in its current state.
If you can get it to fire 6mm, 8mm, or a foam projectiles, with a safe, consistent propulsion system, then we could look into it further.

[mp81]

I figured so - Chris really wants to bring it every where - I just had to confirm the fact that it is not quite...safe...

[Mosin]

Isn't airsoft in Detroit illegal?

"They are legal throughout the U.S, however due to high crime rates are not legal in certain cities such as Camden, NJ, Newark, NJ, Chicago, IL, and Detroit, MI. The states of New Jersey, Illinois, New York and Michigan do however allow airsoft guns to be used and handled publicly because of Federal and State laws that regard airsoft guns as toys."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airsoft#Legal_issues

Correct me if I'm wrong please, I'd love to play here.

[tanner5842]

I dont know for sure, but i do know that 13% of wikipedia is false info.

[Jumprefusal]

I tried to look it up myself and could not find the answer. I know i've heard from someplace before that it was, but really all it takes is a short call to the PD to verify.

[skypilot181]

City of Detroit Ordinance:

Sec. 38-16-2. Possession; sale; advertising; exceptions.
(a) It is unlawful for any person to possess or transfer replica or facsimile firearms within the corporate limits of the City of Detroit.
(b) It is unlawful for any person to display, market for sale, or sell replica or facsimile firearms within the corporate limits of the City of Detroit.
(c) It is unlawful for any person to place an advertisement in any newspaper, magazine, handbill, sign, poster, other publications, or other advertising media with knowledge that the purpose of the advertisement, in whole or in part, is to promote within the corporate limits of the City of Detroit the possession, transfer, or sale of objects designed and manufactured as replica or facsimile firearms.
(d) The provisions of this section shall not apply to replica or facsimile firearms which, because of their distinct color, exaggerated size or permanently affixed international blaze orange markings on the receiver portions of the product and blaze orange plug recessed no more than six (6) millimeters from the muzzle end of the barrel, cannot reasonably be perceived to be real firearms.
(e) The possession, manufacture, marketing, distribution, and sale of replica or facsimile firearms are permitted if such devices are possessed, manufactured, marketed, distributed, or sold (1) solely for subsequent transportation in intrastate, interstate, or foreign commerce or (2) solely for lawful use in theatrical productions including motion picture, television, and stage productions. Such devices shall not be displayed to the general public or sold for other uses within the corporate limits of the City of Detroit regardless of where manufactured or purchased.
(Ord. No. 10-88, § 1, 4-20-88)

Source -->www.municode.com/resources/gateway.asp?pid=10649&sid=22http://www.municode.com/resources/gateway.asp?pid=10649&sid=22

In short: In must have a orange tip, otherwise it's illegal.

[vegas]

It's illegal to sell airsoft guns in Detroit.
It's illegal to brandish your airsoft gun in public.

It is totally legit to have a game on private property, out of public view.

Also, the main entrance and the back doors(which will be locked) will have giant orange warning sign on the outside stating that 'we are playing out simulated military conflict scenarios with replica guns, and eye protection is required inside.'

[rynedogg]

Yes, this true. In fact next time i talk to Detroit PD (because i can I will make sure. I am possitive it is legal behind all means, due to it being private property.

[skypilot181]

rynedogg said:

Yes, this true. In fact next time i talk to Detroit PD (because i can I will make sure. I am possitive it is legal behind all means, due to it being private property.

Ryne, not to be an ass about it. I can call the cops and talk to them too. It doesn't matter what the cops say, they don't write the law. And it's not the cops I would be afraid of, it's the prosecuting attorney's office that presses the charges and puts your ass to jail!!!

In the City of Dearborn, it was (and perhaps still is) illegal to discharge a paintball gun. Including on private property, because it's an ordnance. Just like Taylor has an ordnance about how many non-running vehicles you can have in on your property. Public or private property, it doesn't matter because it's a city ordnance. Now, by that it's a fine or a misdemeanor, and not a felony. Either way, you may end up a night in jail and your replica's confiscated until your trail.

I'm not disagreeing with the safe practices that's being asked here. I'm just saying before you run off and say it's legal. You need to have backing...in writing from a legitimate source. Not some cop you chat too...because you can.

Vegas, the City Ordnance doesn't say anything about discharging a replica, so yes your correct. And I agree that is appears to be legal in the city of Detroit.. as so long as it meets Sec. 38-16-2. Part D.

(d) The provisions of this section shall not apply to replica or facsimile firearms which, because of their distinct color, exaggerated size or permanently affixed international blaze orange markings on the receiver portions of the product and blaze orange plug recessed no more than six (6) millimeters from the muzzle end of the barrel, cannot reasonably be perceived to be real firearms.

Personally, I would make sure I have a orange coloured tip on my replica. Remember you're dealing with the City of Detroit.

[tanner5842]

Well my dad is the prosecuting attorney in Dearborn, so we wont have that problem in Dearborn. Hey maybe even Detroit?