Another Futureball Game?

[Knief]

No Andrew, I don't care about anybody else's safety. I just don't like you.

I don't know which grenade I got hit with, but each individual bb was seemed to be going at about 250 fps. If you're using a grenade with a lower bb count, it'll shoot each bb harder, so that may be an issue. How many bbs does your shell hold, toothbrush? I would think that if you're using 134a in it, it shouldn't really be a problem. Also, this "house" is a shack, and not heated. The thing might not reach 100fps in this weather.

[AndrewMp5k2007]

admin said:

No Andrew, I don't care about anybody else's safety. I just don't like you.

Damn, I knew it. Shoulda known that was coming.

[Mike Myers]

Wow thats kinda harsh, Knief. Whats wrong with Andrew?

[Toothbrush]

admin said:

How many bbs does your shell hold, toothbrush?

Thanks for the response. As for my shell, I dont know yet I am waiting to see if the M203 deal I am trying to work out goes through. If so I am looking at either a MBX204 (204 bbs) or the MB583A1 (96 bbs)

www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=128&products_id=1102

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[D.]

Also, keep in mind with freezing temperatures I don't know how well the gas will work, and if it does I'm assuming it will hurt more than it would in a room temperature environment.

[Toothbrush]

That is very true. But with the X204, I could probaly adjust it accordingly with the temp by simply adjusting the amount of bbs used, ie not a full load. Heck, it could be done with any gas 203 shell. Regardless though, the weather, and more so the temp will be a major factor in the deployment of this and other gas operated relicas.

[bman111]

that place looks awesome ;D

[Scott]

What exactly are the MIA fps rules, the post about it on the regulations board doesnt really establish which set to use.

I'm not trying to get off topic here, I ask because my AK probably shoots around 390fps, so would I be able to use it outside of the buildings at the urban field, and switch to a pistol when indoors?

[Toothbrush]

Engagement Rules

Article 15: The following are the minimum distance engagement limits for airsoft replicas. This is the closest a player can engage another player with a replica rated in the following feet per second (fps) categories using full-auto, semi-auto, or single shot capability. See Article 16 for extremely close quarter player elimination.

OUTDOOR/OPEN FIELD ENGAGEMENT LIMITS

• 1.0 - 350.9 fps - Arms length engagement limit


• 351.0 - 410.9 fps - 20 foot engagement limit


• 411.0 - 550.9 fps – 50 foot engagement limit, bolt action or permanent* semi-auto replicas only


• 551.0+ fps - Prohibited or allowed with permission of event organizer only

*Permanent semi-auto refers to replicas that do not have full-auto fire capability, no matter how the selector switch or other user input device is manipulated.


INDOOR/CLOSE QUARTER BATTLE (CQB)/ENCLOSED FIELD ENGAGEMENT LIMITS

• 1.0 - 350.9 fps – Arms length engagement limit


• 351.0+ fps – prohibited or allowed with permission of event organizer only


Engagement limits are based on averaged fps readings using .20 gram weight bb’s only. The method for acquiring an airsoft replica’s average fps is to fire multiple (more than 2) shots through a chronograph, record the readings, add the fps readings together and divide by the total number of readings.
Gas operated airsoft replicas should be chronographed using a “warm” ambient temperature gas supply (i.e. magazine), or with heating device functioning if used during the cold season.
No allowance is made for airsoft replicas that have an average reading close to the lower end of the next highest fps category. Example- if the replica has an average reading of 351.5 fps it falls within the 20 foot engagement limit.

[Scott]

Thanks a lot

[Maddok]

So whats the word on high FPS guns outside the building, would we be able to use them there? Because like Murdoc, my G3 is shooting high 300's low 400's now.

[D.]

We are following MiA FPS limits.

[Scott]

Yes, but what we are asking is the rule for indoor cqb limits will only effect you when you are inside buildings, right?

[El Phantasamo]

murdoc said:

Yes, but what we are asking is the rule for indoor cqb limits will only effect you when you are inside buildings, right?

(Ed McHanon voice) YOU SIR ARE CORRECT!

350 FPS for targets inside the builidng
400 FPS full auto outside the building
you can shoot 400 FPS into the windows, if you follow engagement limits. Same for shooting outside the windows.

500 FPS for semi-only and bolt action rifles

[AndrewMp5k2007]

Thought for semi or bolt action rifles it was 550fps? I still have to chrono my PSG-1.