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Post by King on Jun 26, 2006 22:46:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I honestly don't know why, but the new Barrel plugging rule annoys the shit out of me.
Regardless, I'm making one.
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Post by GeneralB on Jun 26, 2006 22:50:29 GMT -5
We drop out mags anyways! Bah! I hate rules!
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Post by El Phantasamo on Jun 26, 2006 22:57:36 GMT -5
I am wholeheartedly opposed to the barrel cover idea. I think just dropping our mags is fine. I also detest rule #5. Yeah, I honestly don't know why, but the new Barrel plugging rule annoys the shit out of me. I don't like the idea of not carrying gas into the field myself. As for the barrel bags, there are mostly for the parking lot. When we were in our staging area on the path near the edge of the field, we still had to stay goggles on. Barrel bags are unnecessary there. If you want to use them there, i wont say nothin'. Look at it this way, there bright orange, almost like a rududndant kill-rag. Thats how I plan to use mine
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Post by Psychosis on Jun 26, 2006 23:11:33 GMT -5
See, I was very opposed to the barrel cover idea. I was even going to rant about it inside the moderator's forum, how they are trying to run us out of the place, with the windshield fiasco and everything. Then I thought it over...
1) They are being consistent with their rules, people who play paintball at Futureball have to have barrel plugs on their markers, at least they're being consistent in applying it to us as well.
2) A barrel bag/condom runs two whole dollars or so. If you can't make one or afford one, you probably shouldn't be playing airsoft. Hell, if they refund the money they took due to the windshield fiasco, you can use that to buy a bag.
3) There's always the chance that a bb will be inside the chamber of the gun, this is a measure to prevent that.
Will it be annoying as hell? Maybe so. Is it too much to ask from us? I don't think so. My one caveat is that I think the Marui barrel plugs should be allowed, especially if we don't insert magazines into our weapons - I shot a bb into the barrel plug by accident, and it did its job.
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Post by Knief on Jun 26, 2006 23:17:13 GMT -5
There is no reason not to use a barrel bag. They provide extra safety at very little cost. I've accidentally fired a round before (the mag was out and it was a couple weeks after the last time I played -- the bb hit my stereo). It happens. A barrel bag will prevent that from happening when other people are around to be hit.
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Post by theguy on Jun 26, 2006 23:40:39 GMT -5
We want barrel bags specifically made for paintball. In the ends are very thick reinforcing. Usually a little thicker than nylon strapping. If you make your own, it will be a referee decision. Dropping mags was a last minute decision made because we could not require you to all have barrel bags on the spot. Whn you drop your mag, many of the guns still hold bb's in the chamber. Its easier to just make a universally visible barrel cover.
Green gas and standard gas canisters are made of a very thin metal. Any tripping or falling onto an object could result in the rupture of a can. It will mostly come down to on the spot decisions. i didn't expect the rule to be detested as much as it was so I will clarify on it here.
If you have a vest or some other device set up to hold the cans, then you may carry them. What bugged me was people simply shoving the cans into their pants pockets.
All SEMIA members should be expected to have barrel bags at the next game. They will not be strictly enforced at the next event. However after that point they WILL be required in ALL goggles off areas. There will be no exceptions. First thing you do when you unzip or unlock your gun case, is to strap one on.
I also need to make an addition. Nobody should be dry firing or shooting BB's in the parking lot.
Most of these rules are meant to keep you safe. We are trying to hold Airsoft players by the same standards that we hold Paintball players to. As it stands right now, airsoft players are getting away with a lot more than PB players. These rules are up with your safety in mind.
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Post by Knief on Jun 26, 2006 23:54:20 GMT -5
Chris,
By enforcing that all guns must have a barrel bag (or be holstered if it's a pistol) in a safe zone, would it be possible to set up a temporary safe zone by putting barrel bags on all guns on the field? For example, during the break in between games when everybody is reloading, drinking water, or whatever, if everybody put on a barrel bag and holstered their pistols, could we remove our goggles?
Or, rather than using a barrel bag, could I transport my guns in a gun case into the hot zone and never need a barrel bag? If my rifle never left it's [hard plastic] case in the parking lot, I wouldn't need a barrel bag on it, right?
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Post by theguy on Jun 27, 2006 11:22:33 GMT -5
Correct, you could just keep it in the case all the time. Although I just see it as going uneccisarily out of your way to avoid using a 3 inch piece of canvas the folds flat into your pocket.
Hopefully next time we go out there, we will be back to having a staging area behind the netting. I never saw any problems when we were back there and i will be talking to Jenna about it.
And let me just stress this.
[glow=red,2,300]Anyone who makes their own barrel bag/cover/condom will have it scrutinized by myself and the field owner. If it is insufficient in size or thickness you will not be allowed to use it.[/glow]
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Post by Mini-Matt (Achilles) on Jun 27, 2006 11:27:40 GMT -5
Yes, gas cans are thick, but I use Collman's propane. The metal is very thick, am I allowed to bring that on the field?
Also, people who have small outer barrels/no barrels at all (MP5, G3SAS, P90), what do they do, just strap it on the whole front end of there gun?
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Post by Psychosis on Jun 27, 2006 11:32:02 GMT -5
If you have a secure location for your gas cans like inside a molle pouch or something, then it shouldn't be a problem.
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Post by GeneralB on Jun 27, 2006 11:34:40 GMT -5
yeah I got an Mp5, how the hell am I supposed to get a barrel cover on that? It came with a plasic cover, is that suffiecent, if I tape it?
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Post by Psychosis on Jun 27, 2006 11:45:05 GMT -5
I would presume you could loop it behind the mag catch or something, I guess we'll have to see how it works out at the next Futureball game.
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Post by boba on Jun 27, 2006 16:27:48 GMT -5
I see no problem with a barrel bag... especially if it helps in bringing back the no-goggle-behind-the-net zone. Whater you guys do, just fire a few rounds through it to make sure it works.
And I can see why there is complaints about firing/dry firing in the parking lot. Come on... you don't see paintballers doing that do you?
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Post by Psychosis on Jun 27, 2006 19:40:40 GMT -5
Perhaps we should inform others about the general use of barrel bags so that they become standard at more places than just Futureball.
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Post by Gestapo on Jun 27, 2006 23:21:56 GMT -5
I shot a green gas can on full auto for about... 600 round with my 400 FPS AK... only left little dings....there is no way tripping is going to bust open a bottle.... I mean, they hold up to fucking 80 PSI.
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