Rules of SEMIA

[D.]

Well what a cute little acronym.
All rules will basically comply with MIA FPS standards.
All members of SEMIA are to behave in an orderly manner and not act like a flaming retard when handling an airsoft gun (We are trying to look good here)
All members will respect other members even though they may thoroughly dislike each other, (take it out on the field)
I will edit as more come to me, feel free to add in

Also: Signatures will be the same as MIA regulations we don't any huge bandwith problems.

[JackBFromROC]

Sounds good, perhaps we should lay down some safety regulations, at the least just mention that it should be in compliance with MiA rules. Also I think the vast majority of people out here are just trying to play some realistic games and have fun, so let's not be sore losers or cheaters, we are going to be the people reflecting airsoft to the community of South Eastern Michigan, so let's do our hobby/sport of choice proud.

Jack.

[Mitch1313]

I second that. We should definitely strive to be the role models for airsoft in the South East Michigan area.

[Scott]

What about cheating? Since it is free to play, we may see more cheating than if people had to pay. Are our rules preventing cheating going to be the same as MIA?

[JackBFromROC]

I think we should issue some sort of a rule against cheating. Warnings, possibly, but I have seen that go bad. I know of people that got shot in the face from feet away with upgraded guns and the offenders were only issued a warning. Not cool. I think there should be certain degrees of discipline we could institute for different degrees of cheating.

Jack.

[D.]

If we deem it unreasonable you usually get a 21 gun salute.

[Knief]

I hope you don't mean a firing squad. Those aren't the way to go. If somebody acts unreasonable, we ought to kick them out of the game. Nobody wants to drive a long way to get kicked out half way through the day. If they do it again, we just don't invite them back again. When it comes to not calling hits though, it's a pretty tricky matter to judge. We all know it's possible to simply not feel a hit. I'd think just warning the person to be attentive to their hits on the first offense would be sufficient. If he legitimately didn't feel the hit, then he gets the chance to pay more attention and make it up. If he actually cheated, he knows that he's being watched and hopefully will cut it out before he gets booted.

[D.]

Oh fine

[inFamous]

to elaborate on kniefs course of action....

It is very hard to tell if someone is "cheating" or just didn't "notice" the hit. This is a game of honesty.... unless you want to institute strict rules which, may violate the sancity of the "sport"... then warnings will be effective enough.... (for miss noticed hits). However, if one makes it readily apparent that they are a "no good cheater" then a differeing and more harsh course of action shell be taken (ejection from game, future games, or the "team").

sound fair?

Furthermore, violating engagment distances and not noticing a hit are different degrees of rules violation. A unnoticed hit doesn't violate the safety of players... However, a broken engagment limit can. Therefor, penalties for this violation should be made more severe and giving less if any chance for the violaters recopperation of the act (given another chance).

sound good?

- btw- inFamous1.... but, the login hates me

[Father_Livonia]

sounds very fair, i cant stand cheaters and im sure none of you guys do either. as frostee said at OP: northern flight "if your in brush and bb's are bouncing off branches around you...call yourself out, this is milsim and if it was real combat there would be no branches left to hide in" (something along those lines)

[JackBFromROC]

I am a pretty avid tennis player(hang with me here). In tennis, if your opponent hits a ball, and you can't(or don't want to) judge whether it is in or out, it is automatically ruled as in. Alot of people say, "Well, I couldn't TELL if it was in or out...", and so in order to force honesty, it's just an unwritten rule that you call it in.

I think this would be a good system to enforce in airsoft as well, to be honest, in the time it takes to fight over whether one is cheating or not, it's just easier and faster to call it hit and get back to the spawn station. This system has a pretty good way of getting people to just tell the truth or stop arguements, and since airsoft, like tennis, is really a game about honesty and respect, I think it would work well here too.

Just a thought,
Jack.

[Knief]

That's a great system to use, and one that my old team settled on quickly. Even so though, there were always problems. One person was dead sure that it didn't hit him and one person was sure that it did. Something like that is always bound to happen, so we have to have a means to deal with it. But yes, for a guideline for general conduct of play, if you're not sure if you're hit, call yourself out. Fewer people will bitch and you'll only have to wait a little while to respawn or for the next game to start. Whoopfuckdo, it's not a big deal, so just call yourself out.

[JackBFromROC]

Exactly, and the basic rule of thumb deals with any dispute, if you're dead sure it didn't hit you and the person who possibly shot you is dead sure it did, it's still in the best interest to just call out. Of course there are always circumstances of ass-holery that may throw someone(has happened to me) into a dimension of pissed off they didn't know existed where it has to be dealt with. My favorite was an AO game where there was walls surrounding the "compound", and "jungle", around it. A kid climbed the fence to the compound and just opened fire on people sitting below him on the side of it, that's just not cool.

Jack.

[Epsun]

Theres one thing I believe should be left out. 18+ regulation. I understand the liability, but if someone is part of the team and is under age, we should have a waiver for the parents to sign leaving the parents of the teenager responsible, not the land owner or anyone else. But aside from that, the age limit should be 14-15 because I myself am 15, but much more mature than most, and I know many more mature 15 year olds. I know one thing we definitely don't need are preteens and younger acting childish.

[inFamous1]

From my knowledge most of the people affiliated with SemiaA are under 18...(MOST... not all). From my anaysis of the people i have met and know on this team..... its safe to say that there will be no 18 + rule in effect. However, if a situation arises which needs this precaution implemented for safety reasons... this a possibilty. However, for now there is no 18+ regulation.... or even a age limit but, i do think it would be a smart thing to implement a 14+ age limit if ones not allready put in place.

If 18+ was put into effect it would be (from my knowledge)- me, knief and resetg. That.... obviously wouldn't work well.