More OPs? (org. Vietnam...)

[Hoover]

Cuba is the only place I think would make sense for a small conflict.

[GeneralB]

psychosis said:

Sure, we allow China, Vietnam, Cuba, and North Korea

well we already tried to stop Vietnam, Cuba we have a military base there, (we also tried that once, "bay of Pigs invasion"?), we have MANY troops in S.Korea keeping check on the N.Korea, AND do you really think it is good for our economy if we stopped trade with China? ITs all about politics!

[Zeke]

Right. We would have terrible infation if we stopped trade with China. Most of our goods are made by little 7 year olds in china. And if that all suddenly stop, Not only would we not have airsoft guns from redwolf, we wouldnt have ANY products from china (unless thats 3rd party trade). Which would make us make our own goods (which would cause the inflation due to higher prices and higher demand.) or we try and find it just as cheap somewhere else and nothing Major happens.

getting back to the main topic, we could have the Swiss jump in with the american forces and raid N. Korea looking for chemical weapons.

[Hoover]

I'm tellin ya, Columbia is the spot. or we could bring back the whole bosnian conflict.

Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia
Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarios de Colombia - FARC

Description
Growing out of the turmoil and fighting in the 1950s between liberal and conservative militias, the FARC was established in 1964 by the Colombian Communist Party to defend what were then autonomous Communist-controlled rural areas. The FARC is Latin America’s oldest, largest, most capable, and best-equipped insurgency of Marxist origin. Although only nominally fighting in support of Marxist goals today, the FARC is governed by a general secretariat led by longtime leader Manuel Marulanda (a.k.a. “Tirofi jo”) and six others, including senior military commander Jorge Briceno (a.k.a. “Mono Jojoy”). It is organized along military lines and includes several units that operate mostly in key urban areas such as Bogota. In 2003, the FARC conducted several high profile terrorist attacks, including a February car-bombing of a Bogota nightclub that killed more than 30 persons and wounded more than 160, as well as a November grenade attack in Bogota’s restaurant district that wounded three Americans.

Activities
Bombings, murder, mortar attacks, narcotrafficking, kidnapping, extortion, hijacking, as well as guerrilla and conventional military action against Colombian political, military, and economic targets. In March 1999, the FARC executed three US Indian rights activists on Venezuelan territory after it kidnapped them in Colombia. In February 2003, the FARC captured and continues to hold three US contractors and killed one other American and a Colombian when their plane crashed in Florencia. Foreign citizens often are targets of FARC kidnapping for ransom. The FARC has well-documented ties to the full range of narcotics trafficking activities, including taxation, cultivation, and distribution.

Strength
Approximately 9,000 to 12,000 armed combatants and several thousand more supporters, mostly in rural areas.
Location/Area of Operation
Colombia with some activities—extortion, kidnapping, logistics, and R&R—in Venezuela, Panama, and Ecuador.

External Aid
Cuba provides some medical care and political consultation. A trial is currently underway in Bogota to determine whether three members of the Irish Republican Army—arrested in Colombia in 2001 upon exiting the FARC-controlled demilitarized zone (despeje)—provided advanced explosives training to the FARC. The FARC and the Colombian National Liberation Army (ELN) often use the border area for crossborder incursions and use Venezuelan territory near the border as a safehaven.

A little info on the FARC

[GeneralB]

yeah but do we really wanna invade N.Korea with all that is going on in the Middle East?, Standing troops is one thing, an assault is another. The last thing the U.S. gov't wants to do is start another war,(by the way the Korean war never really ended, it was just a seize fire)anyway, I dont think commiting more troops is a good idea. There is enough turmoil in the world and the U.S. as it is

[tmfan]

it could just be S.K vs. N.K with a few special ops troops.

[Mini-Matt (Achilles)]

Zeke, did you seriously just say the swiss could help us.
Switzerland has been Neutral in every war Known to man, they wouldn't do anything but sit there and play with there handy Muti-knives.
Did you say that just because you have Swiss camo?
On the China thing, we would have Redwolf airsoft still, along with a bunch of other Over-seas companys because Hong Kong, is an Independent state, not really part of China, so we would still get goods.

I like my Idea, but we would either need to
A, scale it down
B, find a place capable of holding 250 people.

Wait...Jyrki...did you say bosnian conflict.
I'm with him on that!

[GeneralB]

yeah HK is an independant state, but whose to say if we were at war the chinese wouldnt intercept American bound ships from HK?

[Zeke]

matt said:

Did you say that just because you have Swiss camo?

Yeah Mainly :-D and I didn't know they shipped out of hong kong, I just thought it was somewhere in china, not in the free hong kong. everywhere else is communistic. I did know that.

[Hoover]

matt said:

Wait...Jyrki...did you say bosnian conflict.
I'm with him on that!

I just though of bosnia last night because behind enemy lines was on.This would be a great mid summer op: maybe late july or early august.

[bman111]

i just love matts idea, and i think we should have a big game

we need land though

are there ANY fields that big

[Psychosis]

I should have clarified - those are communist countries that we tolerate, not necessarily like.

Hong Kong is not independent - it used to be a British colony and got returned to China in '97, but the Communists promised 49-50 more years of guaranteed autonomy

Let's keep throwing out scenarios! One idea is to base it off of popular movies, besides Blackhawk Down, Behind Enemy Lines is a good start and there are plenty more - Tears of the Sun (maybe instead of just a single SEAL team being hunted transform it into more of a peacekeeping role?), Face/Off (I'm thinking cops and robbers at its finest here), Clear and Present Danger (US SF vs. drug cartels), etc.

[VMAX]

bman111 said:

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are there ANY fields that big

Huron national forest.

It's huge, its free, its away from any kind of civilization that would get freaked out by people running around with realistic toy guns. All we gotta do is tell the DNR what we'll be doing and where.

We don't have to use bio bbs either. people can shoot real guns anywhere they want in a national forest in michigan, and as I'm sure you all know, lead does not decompose.

[piratevalkyrie]

Where's the park?

[VMAX]

Up north, near the town of Oscoda, which is south of Alpena near Lake Michigan. The portion of the forest I'm thinking of is near an old airbase that they used to fly B52s out of during the cold war.

But it's roughly a million acres of pristine government funded woodland territory, with a grid of small two track dirt roads that run north and south about a mile apart from each other.