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Post by Gestapo on Jul 8, 2005 14:59:33 GMT -5
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Post by Maddok on Jul 8, 2005 23:17:10 GMT -5
Hey gestapo, I looked at black Messa btw, and they didnt really seem to have much of anything, is it just because their site isnt updated or what?
(oh, and infamousone, I planed to put in an M120, but I think I might put the torque up gears in it anyways)
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Post by Knief on Jul 9, 2005 1:20:52 GMT -5
7jl22sea, First off, you need a name that is easier to remember type out, and say. I can't very well come up to you at a game and say "Hey, are you seven-jay-el-twenty-two-sea?" As for BMA (Black Messa Airsoft), there's something you should know about all retailers in the United States. Each and every one of them orders their inventory from one of three or four major wholesalers/retailers in Hong Kong (Usually WargamersClub Shop [WGC], Den Trinity Shop [Den], Redwolf Airsoft, and UNCompany [UNC]). It doesn't really matter what they have on their site, because you can email the shop and ask them to get pretty much anything you want. If it's listed in stock at one of those retailers, then BMA can almost definitely get it to you. This goes for any high end retailer that you may end up liking. My personal favorite is Combat Depot, followed up by MDairsoft. Both offer this service. See, most airsoft retail shops are small, they usually don't make up the owners primary income. So, most can't afford to keep hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stock in every day, contrary to most other sporting goods stores. So, retailers like BMA list the bare essentials, like bbs, TM AEGs, a few GBBs, and maybe some spare parts. That just means that they sell more of those than anything else, so it's worth their time to put them on the website. So, just browse www.wgcshop.com and find what you're looking for. Then, email the specific name of the product as listed on WGC (in case they don't use WGC, they can look it up and make sure you get exactly what you want) to BMA, CD, or MDairsoft and they'll email you back in a day or two with a price quote and offer you methods of payment. It's not as easy as a checkout option, but it's one of the hassles that you learn to live with. I personally email the retailer any time I make a purchase that isn't just some bbs or gas, just to make sure that they have everything in stock or to check when it should come in.
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Post by Gestapo on Jul 9, 2005 1:54:38 GMT -5
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Post by Maddok on Jul 9, 2005 11:32:06 GMT -5
Oh I see, thanks. Also, the thing about my name is that its my school ID and I use it as an ID for everything, so its easy to remember, you can just call me jake btw, sorry for the inconvenience.
Thanks again for all your help guys
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Post by Maddok on Jul 12, 2005 16:54:08 GMT -5
I know I'm sort of bringing back an old topic but I just came upon an SG-1 high cap, low cap, 5000 bbs,battery, original box and manual, and some woodland camo on Mia for 270(I'll proly go for around 250 if he will).
Anyways I'll proly end up buying this I was just wondering how the Tokyo marui plastic bodies hold up seeing as I have no experience with them. I've heard some say that they're really durable, just as good as metal, others say the creak alot and suck, so can someone clear this up for me please?
Thanks guys Jake
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Post by AndrewMp5k2007 on Jul 12, 2005 17:12:24 GMT -5
Well Tokyo Marui's bodies use high impact ABS plastic. I think that it is as strong as the material CA makes their bodies out of, pot metal, except TM's plastic bodies can bend and take the abuse a little better.
Their durable, only thing on TM's bodies that aren't are the M16's line, their tabs that connect the Lower and Upper reciever together snap a lot. I have one that has both tabs snapped.
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Post by Knief on Jul 12, 2005 17:15:56 GMT -5
El has his hands on a TM G3-SG1 right now, so he'll be able to give you a better description than I can. But I can start you out. Generalizing TM plastic bodies isn't easy, since different length guns have different properties. First though, TM doesn't use the cheap plastic that dollar store squirt guns are made out of, they use high impact ABS plastic. As long as you're not swinging your gun like a bat, it's not going to break. There is a specific issue with the G3 though, it has what's called "chasis flex." The G3 is a long gun, with a long body, and a long thin cocking tube, and because of that, you can feel it bend a little. It doesn't feel like it's going to snap in half on you or anything, but you can feel the flex.
With that said, there are fixes available, one of which is buying a metal body. I believe bigmack posted on MiA about a way to reinforce the structure of the cocking tube, but I don't remember it very well. Perhaps El came across it in his searching for G3 info when he bought his not too long ago. Any help here would be great, man.
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Post by Maddok on Jul 12, 2005 17:37:05 GMT -5
Thanks guys, ya El if you could help me out on this that would be great, sounds like you have alot of knowledge on the topic (seeing as you own one)
Jake
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Post by infamousone on Jul 12, 2005 17:40:44 GMT -5
As long as you are not using your gun as a baseball bat or airplane the plastic TM bodies hold up very well.
Metal bodies are just for looks and bragging rights.... mostly.
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Post by Maddok on Jul 12, 2005 18:11:41 GMT -5
Ok I'll keep that in mind Jake
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Post by El Phantasamo on Jul 12, 2005 19:41:44 GMT -5
Thanks guys, ya El if you could help me out on this that would be great, sounds like you have alot of knowledge on the topic (seeing as you own one) Jake OK Let me give you the run down on my G3-SG/1 (Karina) First off, shes upgraded, m120 spring. No gears or motor yet, so the ROF is a bit low for my liking, so I'm going with a motor first, gears over this winter. She's solid, but squeaky. This isn't anything to worry about, all Mauri plastic bodies tend to be this way. I do plan to switch her over to metal this winter as well. G3's in general are very large rifles. I kept getting the barrel kicked by the guy in front of me, or snagged on the brush around me. If you put in a tight bore barrel (as I pan to do, THIS WINTER), spring, gears and motor, you'll have one hell of a rifle.
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Post by Maddok on Jul 12, 2005 20:10:40 GMT -5
So you think I could get away with an M120 without any furthur upgrades for a bit? Because I was under the impression this would really wreck the gun.
Also, with an M120, about what is your acurate range?
Thanks Jake
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Post by Uberhampster on Jul 12, 2005 20:19:39 GMT -5
Do U.S. retailers (i.e. BMA or 21st) have an easier time going through customs thatn individual customers (i.e. us)? How much do they usually hike the prices?
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Post by El Phantasamo on Jul 12, 2005 20:35:52 GMT -5
So you think I could get away with an M120 without any furthur upgrades for a bit? Because I was under the impression this would really wreck the gun. Also, with an M120, about what is your acurate range? Thanks Jake Well you CAN use stock gears with an M120, but you SHOULD use reinforced or torque up gears. metal bushings are a MUST. No nylon or ball bearings. AS for effective range, cant really tell you, never got out a tape measure
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